-- Num ---- Username ---- Category ------------- Posted -- Expires | 41140 | STU_MBREEDY | RELIGION | 01/21/92 | 01/28/92 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Description: Some evidence to consider. . . ===================================================================== Ok. Everyone wants evidence. This may not be the evidence you're looking for,but it is something to think about. Christianity centers around none other than Jesus Christ, of course. So lets look at who this Jesus is. Who is Jesus to you? Many people are ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but not as Lord. Jesus claimed to be God --he left open no other options. Let's consider that his claim was false. If it was false then we have two options: He either knew it was false or he did not know it was false. Let's examine each separately. If Jesus knew his claims were false, he would be a liar. And if he was a liar, he was also a hypocrite because he told his followers to be honest, while he lived a lie. He would also have been a fool because his claims led to his crucifixion. How could a great moral teacher knowingly mislead people at the most crucial point of his teaching--his identity? You would have to conclude that he was a deliberate liar. This view doesn't coincide with what we know of Him or the results of his teaching. Wherever Jesus has been proclaimed, lives have changed for the better, alcoholics are cured, thieves made honest. I have seen some of this work personally. Historian Philip Schaff says: "This testimony, if not true, must be downright blasphemy or madness. The former hypothesis cannot stand a moment before the moral purity and dignity of Jesus, revealed in his every word and work, and acknowledged by universal consent. Self-deception in a matter so momentous, and with an intellect in all respects so clear and so sound, is equally out of the question. How could he be an enthusiast or a madman who never lost the even balance of his mind, who sailed serenly over all the troubles and persecutions, who always returned the wisest answer to tempting questions, who calmly and deliberately predicted his death on the cross and his ressurrection on the third day, the founding of his church, the destruction of Jerusalem--predictions which have been literally fulfilled? It would take more than a Jesus to invent a Jesus." ("History of the Christian Church", p. 109). If Jesus wanted people to llow him, why did he go to a Jewish nation? Why wouldn't he have gone to a larger nation, or to one where people worshipped numerous gods, like Greece? Someone who lived as Jesus lived, taught as he taught and died as he died could not have been a liar. What other alternatives are there? Well, he could have been lying and not realized it--in which case he was a lunatic. Maybe Jesus really thought he was G, but was mistaken. In Jesus we don't observe the abnormalities and imbalance that go along with being deranged. And his poise and composure under tremendous pressure would be amazing if he were insane. Christ has said some of the most profoud things in history, and his teachings of 2,000 years ago still apply today. It certainly would be amazing for an insane man to seem so consistent. Psychiatrist J.T. Fisher stated that if you took all the articles written by the most qualified psychologists and have them refined by the most capable poets, you would have an awkward an incomplete summation of the Sermon on the Mount. And it would suffer immeasurably in comparison (J.T. Fisher--"A Few Buttons Missing", p. 273). Was Jesus Lord? There is a choice to be made: liar, lunatic, or lord. This choice should not be an idle intellectual exercise; Jesus cannot be shelved as simply a moral teacher. All choices are possible, but which is the more probable? This is probably not the evidence many of you were hoping for. But it is something to think about. Matt